Clubs and Socs Alumni - Revision history

Receive at 02:24, 20 April 2007

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	eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have		eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have
	to contribute any funds.		to contribute any funds.



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Nabi: /* Bad Idea */

2006-01-12T16:04:15Z

Bad Idea

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	training. But hand puppets might still be a good move		training. But hand puppets might still be a good move

	- If alumni hate the idea of giving money, or even being called about giving money, what will make them like the idea of		- If alumni hate the idea of giving money, or even being called
	~~giving~~ time/experience for free?		about giving money, what will make them like the idea of giving
	[ People get feedback from giving time & experience to other people. They don't get feedback from giving money.		time/experience for free?
	In other words, when they give time and experience, they get something back in return. ]		[ People get feedback from giving time & experience to other
			people. They don't get feedback from giving money. In other words,
			when they give time and experience, they get something back in
			return. ]

	*Why it's a bad idea for clubs & socs		*Why it's a bad idea for clubs & socs
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	budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it		budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it
	would have to be self-funding I guess.		would have to be self-funding I guess.
	[ There is no problem with current students paying under this Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually		[ There is no problem with current students paying under this
	~~become~~ alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past students paid for present facilities. Apart from		Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually become
	all this, funding needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]		alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past
	- I don't know if this sounds like alumni running the show a bit too much.. getting the college to start charging students		students paid for present facilities. Apart from all this, funding
	~~to fund~~ events for alumni? It's especially silly since alumni in theory have more money than students. The difference with		needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]
	the example of the new gym etc is that it was aimed at future students, who would be equally unable to pay for it.		- I '''really really''' don't think this can or should be done. Ethically
	I think a better way would be for the university to put a larger initial investment in, and follow that up with raising		it's at best dodgy (I certainly wouldn't be able to support it)
	~~money from~~ alumni which would pay for the alumni office to keep going and keep organising events. Ideally, if alumni fund		and legally there are restrictions on capitation which render it
	raising takes off (which is every bit as reasonable an assumption as alumni attending events or giving their time to		impossible. The gym was a separate fee levied (and all students
	organise events), then eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have to contribute any funds.		voted to do so), whereas capitation is protected [Riona]
			- I don't know if this sounds like alumni running the show a bit
			too much.. getting the college to start charging students to fund
			events for alumni? It's especially silly since alumni in theory
			have more money than students. The difference with the example of
			the new gym etc is that it was aimed at future students, who would
			be equally unable to pay for it.
			I think a better way would be for the university to put a larger
			initial investment in, and follow that up with raising money from
			alumni which would pay for the alumni office to keep going and
			keep organising events. Ideally, if alumni fund raising takes off
			(which is every bit as reasonable an assumption as alumni
			attending events or giving their time to organise events), then
			eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have
			to contribute any funds.

Nabi: /* Good Idea */

2006-01-12T15:58:08Z

Good Idea

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	** Alumni have a lot of experience & advice to give & could really enhance growth of club/soc		** Alumni have a lot of experience & advice to give & could really enhance growth of club/soc

	- Both of the below are more brainstorming than concrete reasons under this heading, aren't they?		- Both of the below are more brainstorming than concrete reasons
			under this heading, aren't they?

	* An Alumni group could leverage useful extras from the Alumni office, in addition to "giving back" in itself		* An Alumni group could leverage useful extras from the Alumni office, in addition to "giving back" in itself

Nabi: /* Brainstorming */

2006-01-12T15:57:23Z

Brainstorming

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	* Working with the '''DCU Alumni Relations Officer''' on projects		* Working with the '''DCU Alumni Relations Officer''' on projects
	Possible suggestions for her to work on are:		Possible suggestions for her to work on are:
	- An FAQ on what DCU Alumni are offered by the college (purely		- An FAQ on what DCU Alumni are offered by the college (purely because
	~~because~~ it will make her think		it will make her think about how little is actually offered and might
	about how little is actually offered and might spur her on to		spur her on to change that)
	change that)
	- Discounted postgraduate courses / further education for Alumni,		- Discounted postgraduate courses / further education for Alumni,
	to encourage more study at DCU?		to encourage more study at DCU?

Nabi: /* Brainstorming */

2006-01-12T15:56:19Z

Brainstorming

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	- This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni Office		- This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni Office
	- Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-traffic		- Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-traffic
	occassion when they sell membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more cash and a		occassion when they sell membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more
	dedicated list of alums to call on.		cash and a dedicated list of alums to call on.
	- Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni		- Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni
	and to form their own independent list of oldies who have shown		and to form their own independent list of oldies who have shown

Nabi: /* Brainstorming */

2006-01-12T15:55:38Z

Brainstorming

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	* An '''Alumni Clubs & Socs Evening''', encouraging them to come back, re-join and talk to DCU societies		* An '''Alumni Clubs & Socs Evening''', encouraging them to come back, re-join and talk to DCU societies
	- This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni		- This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni Office
	Office		- Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-traffic
	- Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-		occassion when they sell membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more cash and a
	~~traffic~~ occassion when they sell
	membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more cash and a
	dedicated list of alums to call on.		dedicated list of alums to call on.
	- Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni		- Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni
	and to form their own independent		and to form their own independent list of oldies who have shown
	list of oldies who have shown genuine interest, rather than		genuine interest, rather than spamming the all-graduates list etc.
	spamming the all-graduates list etc.
	- Should this be done outside of DCU, maybe in town, maybe		- Should this be done outside of DCU, maybe in town, maybe
	supported by DCU?		supported by DCU?

Nabi: /* Brainstorming */

2006-01-12T15:53:56Z

Brainstorming

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	* An '''Alumni Clubs & Socs Evening''', encouraging them to come back, re-join and talk to DCU societies		* An '''Alumni Clubs & Socs Evening''', encouraging them to come back, re-join and talk to DCU societies
	- This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni Office		- This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni
	- Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-traffic occassion when they sell		Office
	membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more cash and a dedicated list of alums to call on.		- Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-
	- Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni and to form their own independent		traffic occassion when they sell
	list of oldies who have shown genuine interest, rather than spamming the all-graduates list etc.		membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more cash and a
	- Should this be done outside of DCU, maybe in town, maybe supported by DCU?		dedicated list of alums to call on.
			- Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni
			and to form their own independent
			list of oldies who have shown genuine interest, rather than
			spamming the all-graduates list etc.
			- Should this be done outside of DCU, maybe in town, maybe
			supported by DCU?
	* Working with the '''DCU Alumni Relations Officer''' on projects		* Working with the '''DCU Alumni Relations Officer''' on projects
	Possible suggestions for her to work on are:		Possible suggestions for her to work on are:
	- An FAQ on what DCU Alumni are offered by the college (purely because it will make her think		- An FAQ on what DCU Alumni are offered by the college (purely
	about how little is actually offered and might spur her on to change that)		because it will make her think
	- Discounted postgraduate courses / further education for Alumni, to encourage more study at DCU?		about how little is actually offered and might spur her on to
			change that)
			- Discounted postgraduate courses / further education for Alumni,
			to encourage more study at DCU?
	* A [http://www.linkedin.com/ LinkedIn]/[http://www.openbc.com OpenBC] style '''contacts website''' specific to DCU, to categorise alumni & their DCU contacts		* A [http://www.linkedin.com/ LinkedIn]/[http://www.openbc.com OpenBC] style '''contacts website''' specific to DCU, to categorise alumni & their DCU contacts

Nabi: /* Questions */

2006-01-12T15:52:33Z

Questions

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	*Are we interested in only a clubs and socs initiative, or a general alumni initiative? (if that were possible)		*Are we interested in only a clubs and socs initiative, or a general alumni initiative? (if that were possible)

	- I think if we are genuinely interested in giving positive suggestions DCU as alumnus we need to realise that student		- I think if we are genuinely interested in giving positive
	affairs issues/DCU campus issues/clubs & society issues are all inextricably linked to student life in DCU and therefore we		suggestions DCU as alumnus we need to realise that student
	should certainly be interested in a more global general alumni initiative... but I realise we do have to start somewhere.		affairs issues/DCU campus issues/clubs & society issues are all
			inextricably linked to student life in DCU and therefore we
			should certainly be interested in a more global general alumni
			initiative... but I realise we do have to start somewhere.

	* Are we okay with working directly with the college on this, or do we want to keep it student-centred and separate from the Alumni office?		* Are we okay with working directly with the college on this, or do we want to keep it student-centred and separate from the Alumni office?
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	it?		it?

	-I cant see how being seperate from the Alumni office would be of any benefit whatsoever in this case. Would that not be,		-I cant see how being seperate from the Alumni office would be of
	in effect, forming an informal Alumni 'office'. I think in this case, lets stick with the alumni office... they have money!:)		any benefit whatsoever in this case. Would that not be,
			in effect, forming an informal Alumni 'office'. I think in this
			case, lets stick with the alumni office... they have money!:)

Cokane at 20:07, 24 December 2005

2005-12-24T20:07:37Z

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	become alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past students paid for present facilities. Apart from		become alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past students paid for present facilities. Apart from
	all this, funding needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]		all this, funding needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]
			- I don't know if this sounds like alumni running the show a bit too much.. getting the college to start charging students
			to fund events for alumni? It's especially silly since alumni in theory have more money than students. The difference with
			the example of the new gym etc is that it was aimed at future students, who would be equally unable to pay for it.
			I think a better way would be for the university to put a larger initial investment in, and follow that up with raising
			money from alumni which would pay for the alumni office to keep going and keep organising events. Ideally, if alumni fund
			raising takes off (which is every bit as reasonable an assumption as alumni attending events or giving their time to
			organise events), then eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have to contribute any funds.

Kpodesta at 14:18, 24 December 2005

2005-12-24T14:18:20Z

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	budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it		budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it
	would have to be self-funding I guess.		would have to be self-funding I guess.
			[ There is no problem with current students paying under this Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually
			become alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past students paid for present facilities. Apart from
			all this, funding needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]