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*Are we interested in only a clubs and socs initiative, or a general alumni initiative? (if that were possible)
*Are we interested in only a clubs and socs initiative, or a general alumni initiative? (if that were possible)


   - I think if we are genuinely interested in giving positive suggestions DCU as alumnus we need to realise that student  
   - I think if we are genuinely interested in giving positive  
   affairs issues/DCU campus issues/clubs & society issues are all inextricably linked to student life in DCU and therefore we  
  suggestions DCU as alumnus we need to realise that student  
   should certainly be interested in a more global general alumni initiative... but I realise we do have to start somewhere.
   affairs issues/DCU campus issues/clubs & society issues are all  
  inextricably linked to student life in DCU and therefore we  
   should certainly be interested in a more global general alumni  
  initiative... but I realise we do have to start somewhere.


* Are we okay with working directly with the college on this, or do we want to keep it student-centred and separate from the Alumni office?
* Are we okay with working directly with the college on this, or do we want to keep it student-centred and separate from the Alumni office?
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   it?
   it?


   -I cant see how being seperate from the Alumni office would be of any benefit whatsoever in  this case. Would that not be,  
   -I cant see how being seperate from the Alumni office would be of  
   in effect, forming an informal Alumni 'office'. I think in this case, lets stick with the alumni office... they have money!:)
  any benefit whatsoever in  this case. Would that not be,  
   in effect, forming an informal Alumni 'office'. I think in this  
  case, lets stick with the alumni office... they have money!:)




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* An '''Alumni Clubs & Socs Evening''', encouraging them to come back, re-join and talk to DCU societies
* An '''Alumni Clubs & Socs Evening''', encouraging them to come back, re-join and talk to DCU societies
   - This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni Office
   - This could be done by the SPC in conjunction with the Alumni Office
   - Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-traffic occassion when they sell  
   - Societies could treat it, like C&S Day, as a once-off, high-traffic  
    membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more cash and a dedicated list of alums to call on.
  occassion when they sell membership benefits to Alumni. It gets them more  
   - Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni and to form their own independent  
  cash and a dedicated list of alums to call on.
    list of oldies who have shown genuine interest, rather than spamming the all-graduates list etc.
   - Crucially, this all encourages societies to think about alumni  
   - Should this be done outside of DCU, maybe in town, maybe supported by DCU?
  and to form their own independent list of oldies who have shown  
  genuine interest, rather than spamming the all-graduates list etc.
   - Should this be done outside of DCU, maybe in town, maybe  
  supported by DCU?
* Working with the '''DCU Alumni Relations Officer''' on projects
* Working with the '''DCU Alumni Relations Officer''' on projects
   Possible suggestions for her to work on are:
   Possible suggestions for her to work on are:
   - An FAQ on what DCU Alumni are offered by the college (purely because it will make her think  
   - An FAQ on what DCU Alumni are offered by the college (purely because  
    about how little is actually offered and might spur her on to change that)
  it will make her think about how little is actually offered and might  
   - Discounted postgraduate courses / further education for Alumni, to encourage more study at DCU?
  spur her on to change that)
   - Discounted postgraduate courses / further education for Alumni,  
  to encourage more study at DCU?
* A [http://www.linkedin.com/ LinkedIn]/[http://www.openbc.com OpenBC] style '''contacts website''' specific to DCU, to categorise alumni & their DCU contacts
* A [http://www.linkedin.com/ LinkedIn]/[http://www.openbc.com OpenBC] style '''contacts website''' specific to DCU, to categorise alumni & their DCU contacts


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** Alumni have a lot of experience & advice to give & could really enhance growth of club/soc
** Alumni have a lot of experience & advice to give & could really enhance growth of club/soc


   - Both of the below are more brainstorming than concrete reasons under this heading, aren't they?
   - Both of the below are more brainstorming than concrete reasons  
  under this heading, aren't they?


* An Alumni group could leverage useful extras from the Alumni office, in addition to "giving back" in itself
* An Alumni group could leverage useful extras from the Alumni office, in addition to "giving back" in itself
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   training. But hand puppets might still be a good move
   training. But hand puppets might still be a good move


   - If alumni hate the idea of giving money, or even being called about giving money, what will make them like the idea of  
   - If alumni hate the idea of giving money, or even being called  
   giving time/experience for free?
  about giving money, what will make them like the idea of giving
   [ People get feedback from giving time & experience to other people. They don't get feedback from giving money.  
   time/experience for free?
  In other words, when they give time and experience, they get something back in return. ]
   [ People get feedback from giving time & experience to other  
  people. They don't get feedback from giving money. In other words,
  when they give time and experience, they get something back in  
  return. ]


*Why it's a bad idea for clubs & socs
*Why it's a bad idea for clubs & socs
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   budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it  
   budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it  
   would have to be self-funding I guess.
   would have to be self-funding I guess.
   [ There is no problem with current students paying under this Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually
   [ There is no problem with current students paying under this  
   become alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past students paid for present facilities. Apart from  
  Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually become
  all this, funding needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]
   alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past  
  students paid for present facilities. Apart from all this, funding  
  needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]
  - I '''really really''' don't think this can or should be done. Ethically
  it's at best dodgy (I certainly wouldn't be able to support it)
  and legally there are restrictions on capitation which render it
  impossible. The gym was a separate fee levied (and all students
  voted to do so), whereas capitation is protected [Riona]
  - I don't know if this sounds like alumni running the show a bit
  too much.. getting the college to start charging students to fund
  events for alumni? It's especially silly since alumni in theory
  have more money than students. The difference with the example of
  the new gym etc is that it was aimed at future students, who would
  be equally unable to pay for it.
  I think a better way would be for the university to put a larger
  initial investment in, and follow that up with raising money from
  alumni which would pay for the alumni office to keep going and
  keep organising events. Ideally, if alumni fund raising takes off
  (which is every bit as reasonable an assumption as alumni
  attending events or giving their time to organise events), then
  eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have
  to contribute any funds.
 
 
 
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