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   training. But hand puppets might still be a good move
   training. But hand puppets might still be a good move


   - If alumni hate the idea of giving money, or even being called about giving money, what will make them like the idea of  
   - If alumni hate the idea of giving money, or even being called  
   giving time/experience for free?
  about giving money, what will make them like the idea of giving
   [ People get feedback from giving time & experience to other people. They don't get feedback from giving money.  
   time/experience for free?
  In other words, when they give time and experience, they get something back in return. ]
   [ People get feedback from giving time & experience to other  
  people. They don't get feedback from giving money. In other words,
  when they give time and experience, they get something back in  
  return. ]


*Why it's a bad idea for clubs & socs
*Why it's a bad idea for clubs & socs
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   budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it  
   budget for activites related to an Alumni Association. Some of it  
   would have to be self-funding I guess.
   would have to be self-funding I guess.
   [ There is no problem with current students paying under this Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually
   [ There is no problem with current students paying under this  
   become alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past students paid for present facilities. Apart from  
  Alumni Office funding model: current students eventually become
  all this, funding needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]
   alumni after all and then benefit, it's a cycle. Same way past  
   - I don't know if this sounds like alumni running the show a bit too much.. getting the college to start charging students  
  students paid for present facilities. Apart from all this, funding  
   to fund events for alumni? It's especially silly since alumni in theory have more money than students. The difference with  
  needed would be minimal to start with anyway ]
  the example of the new gym etc is that it was aimed at future students, who would be equally unable to pay for it.  
  - I '''really really''' don't think this can or should be done. Ethically
   I think a better way would be for the university to put a larger initial investment in, and follow that up with raising  
  it's at best dodgy (I certainly wouldn't be able to support it)
   money from alumni which would pay for the alumni office to keep going and keep organising events. Ideally, if alumni fund  
  and legally there are restrictions on capitation which render it
  raising takes off (which is every bit as reasonable an assumption as alumni attending events or giving their time to  
  impossible. The gym was a separate fee levied (and all students
  organise events), then eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have to contribute any funds.
  voted to do so), whereas capitation is protected [Riona]
   - I don't know if this sounds like alumni running the show a bit
  too much.. getting the college to start charging students to fund
   events for alumni? It's especially silly since alumni in theory  
  have more money than students. The difference with the example of  
  the new gym etc is that it was aimed at future students, who would
  be equally unable to pay for it.  
   I think a better way would be for the university to put a larger  
  initial investment in, and follow that up with raising money from
   alumni which would pay for the alumni office to keep going and  
  keep organising events. Ideally, if alumni fund raising takes off  
  (which is every bit as reasonable an assumption as alumni  
  attending events or giving their time to organise events), then  
  eventually it would pay for itself and the college wouldn't have  
  to contribute any funds.
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